Compatible Trainers for Virtual Watts

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    Graham Rock

    Any Idea when the CASCADE FLUID PRO trainer will be compatible? I've been using it with virtual power on trainerroad and its awesome-would love to be able to just use the new mac ap tho!

    thanks :)

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hi Graham, 

    I will send an email to Cascade today for their power curve.  Once I have the power curve, I can put it right in our server.  Thanks for letting us know about this.  Happy Suffering!

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    Michael Hudson

    I have an Elite Superchrono Power Fluid. Not sure if it's the same power curve as the Qubo but would be great if you could add it.

     

    Thanks

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Michael, I'm looking into this now.  We might be able to upload the power curve for the Elite Power Fluid and use that for the Superchrono Power Fluid.  I believe that this is the same thing that Zwift does as they are very similar power curves.  

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    Francois Guguen

    Hi there, can you tell me if the  Elite SuperCrono Power Mag ElastoGel is supported?

    Thanks

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Francois!

    You would need to use the Arion Mag on Level 2.  We do not have the power curve for the Elite SuperCrono Power Mag ElastoGel.  

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    Francois Guguen

    Thanks for answer.

    Managed to find this curve on the Elite Crono Mag Elastogel.

    Would it be wrong to think the powercurve for the Supercrono Mag don't differ too much from this version (5 levels of resistance vs 8 levels)

    Comment attached to the curve mentioned "An interesting mag trainer with 5 levels of resistance. Level 3 is the recommended one for the PowerCurve Sensor. Press-on-force cannot be adjusted and varies with your own weight, so watts may have a slight offset. It's a comfortable trainer as there is no "locked triangle" - it is the rider's weight that presses the tire onto the roller."

     

     

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    Andy Berger

    Hello,

    the "Elite Misuro Blu" is listed as a supported device here. 

    Do you also support the new version "Misuro B+"?

    http://www.elite-it.com/de/produkte/global/trainers/sensoren/misuro-b

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Andy, The Misuro B+ model should be working as well.  

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Francois,

    I think I know where you got that power curve from!  I can look to add that curve some time this week.  I can load that Level 3 out of 5 power curve.  

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    Wayne Lewis

    The power curves for Inside Ride rollers are here. http://www.insideride.com/assets/E-MotionRollers-PowerCalc.xls

    It needs a couple of inputs: rider (and bike) weight, and magnetic resistance setting.

    It would be great to have this included in the list of trainers supported byVirtual Watts.

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    Aaron Johnson

    Loaded up Wayne using a general curve for that trainer.  Happy Suffering!

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    Bart Gottschalk

    Aaron, does the power curve you just loaded for Inside Ride rollers take the magnetic resistance setting into account? I assume it does not, but thought I'd check as there are 4 different settings which have a VERY different resistance. 

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    Wayne Lewis

    Thanks Aaron.

    I'd echo Bart's question. Could you at least let us know what magnetic setting and rider weight you used in the general curve?

    Thanks,
    Wayne

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    Aaron Johnson

    Thanks everyone.  Okay, I see know what you are talking about.  I'm thinking 170lbs for the bike and rider. I can also pick something like 180lbs.  I need to pick something in the general range to fit a wide variety of people. I will upload it today.  

     

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    Aaron Johnson

    Just added InsideRide Emotion Rollers level 0, 1, 2, 3 for 170lb rider with bike.  

     

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    Wayne Lewis

    Excellent! Thanks Aaron.

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    Graham Richards

    Hi Aaron 

    I too am using the elite crono mag trainer (same as Francois above ) Please just confirm which trainer and setting I should choose as I see the Arion Mag trainer doesn't have a level 3 option as you mentioned above 

    Thanks

    Graham

     

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Everyone,

    The Elite SuperCrono Mag Test up that has all 8 levels.  You can give it a try in the App by logging out and then logging back up.  That will update your list of trainers.  It is the same one Francois was asking for and he provided the power curves for us.   

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    Michael Campbell

    Nevermind, I see you've already updated the trainers to include my Giant Cyclotron Fluid.  You guys rock!

     

    Thanks!

     

    Mike

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    Jim

    Is there a possibility you could add the power curve for a Travel Trac Fluid + trainer? It is available on TrainerRoad and I would love to use the Sufferfest platform as well. 

     

    Thanks,

    Jim

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    Carly Williamson

    Any chance of adding the Kinetic inRide sensor? I tried using sufferfest via the kinetic fit app but am not thrilled with the setup. I would much rather use the sufferfest app.

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Carly, we will be integrating the KK InRide sensor in the future.  I am expecting that integration to happen some time this summer.  Earlier if we don't run into any problems building in the equipment that doesn't have FE-C.  

    Jim, we do have the Travel Trac Fluid trainer virtual power curve.  I can't find the + version of that model anywhere.  

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    Philip Harris

    Hi Aaron

    I have an Elite Chrono Mag Speed, with 5 resistance settings, which setting is the closest to use? I have just used Arion Mag level 2 on rubber glove and my FTP is recorded way too high.

     

    Phil

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Phil,

    If the Arion Mag isn't working, then you have try the Novo Force or the Volare Mag Elastogel.  I took a look at the resistance body, and it is a bit unique.  It doesn't really match up precisely to the other trainers we are currently supported.  Usually, Elite just swaps trainer frames with resistance units which makes things super complicated in the customer support department.  That means if you have 10 resistance units with 10 frames you can have 100 naming conventions.  

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    Philip Harris

    Thanks Aaron,

     

    I've used Novo Force settings and completed 'Rubber Glove'. My FTP now seems more in the region expected.

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    Brandon

    Hello Aaron I have a Keiser M3 with wahoo speed and cadence setup on it. I realize it's not optimal regarding data interaction with Sufferfest but wanted to know if there are certain settings for virtual watts that you have found to be optimal for this type of setup.

    Thanks!

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    Aaron Johnson

    Hello Brandon, 

    because the Keiser M3 is a spin bike like all other spin bikes, I would only recommend using the cadence sensor and a heart rate sensor.  Spin bikes are like single gear bicycles, so having a speed sensor connected doesn't really help anything.  If you add resistance, the wheel could technically be going the same speed even though you are working harder.  So, there isn't much we can do for virtual power and these types of bikes.  

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    Aaron Johnson

    I forgot to add, if your bike does have normal pedal connections and normal crank arms, you could look at buying a power meter like a Vector 2s or a crank arm like a Stages single sided power meter.  Then you can just connect a power meter and not worry about speed calculations.  

     

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