Smart Trainer Compatibility

Follow

What Is A Smart Trainer?

In the past few years, more models of smart trainers have come on the market than you can shake a flogging stick at.  A smart trainer is one that can do a couple of things:

  • First, it can share information with another device, like the Sufferfest App. This information can be power, cadence and speed, depending upon what sensors you have installed and the capabilities of your trainer.
  • Second, it can receive information from a device or app and be controlled by that device or app, changing resistance and power so you can concentrate on suffering without having to shift or manually adjust resistance.

Most smart trainers talk to other devices through one of the following:

  • ANT+ (typically can only send information to devices, and doesn't allow control of the trainer)
  • ANT+ FE-C (Fitness Equipment Control: newer version of the ANT+ protocol that allows the trainer to be controlled by external devices or apps)
  • Bluetooth Smart Trainer Control: There are various methods for controlling trainers via Bluetooth.  We support a large number of smart trainers for control via Bluetooth but only on Mac, iOS, and Windows 10.

Note: Your Mac will need to have Bluetooth 4.0 (also known as Bluetooth Smart) in order to use ERG mode via Bluetooth control.

Note: If you are connecting your smart trainer to a Windows computer without the latest version of Windows 10, you will have to use an Ant+/FE-C connection.

 

Using A Smart Trainer With The Sufferfest

In order for your smart trainer to be compatible with The Sufferfest Training System, it has to use one of the above communication protocols. Some trainer manufacturers use their own, proprietary language, which other platforms simply can't understand. 

  • If your trainer has ANT+ FE-C capabilities (and the FE-C software has been installed), huzzah! Epic suffering is right around the corner. The Sufferfest app can talk to any trainer using the ANT+ FE-C protocol. 
  • The Sufferfest Training System can talk to any smart trainer using the ANT+ protocol (though that might not allow the App to control the resistance of the trainer itself).  If you need more information about how to setup ANT+ sensors, sprint over here: Connecting ANT+ Devices
  • If your smart trainer is not listed below, fret not, Sufferlandrian! We may still support it, we just might have missed it when compiling this list. Please don't hesitate to email us at theminions@thesufferfest.com
  • At the bottom of this page is a list of smart trainers we currently don't support. Some of those listed will not be supported until the manufacturer integrates ANT+ FE-C into their firmware. We suspect Couchlandrian saboteurs are causing delays, but don't have proof.

Smart Trainers That We Support

Manufacturers

Wahoo

Bkool

Saris (CycleOps)

Elite

Jet Black

Kurt Kinetic

Minoura

Tacx

 

 

WAHOO SMART TRAINERS

For more information on how to connect Wahoo Smart trainers, please check out the Wahoo Trainers help article.  

Wahoo KICKR

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

We fully support the Wahoo KICKR in ERG and Level mode.  You can connect the Wahoo KICKR using ANT+ or BLE.  Furthermore, you can connect the KICKR using FE-C through the ANT+ channel. 

  Screen_Shot_2020-08-11_at_8.48.29_AM.png

We support the new KICKR V5, along with the KICKR '18, KICKR '17, KICKR '16 and KICKR '14.  

 

Wahoo KICKR Core

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

 

Kickr_Core.jpg

Wahoo KICKR Snap

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

We full support the Wahoo KICKR Snap in ERG and Level mode.  You can connect the KICKR Snap using ANT+ or BLE.  The Kickr Snap does not have an internal cadence sensor.  

Kickr_Snap.png

Max Wattage @20mph: 1100 watts.

Wahoo KICKR Climb 

The KICKR Climb is supported by The Sufferfest but only using certain workouts.  To connect the Kickr Climb, check out the following article:  The Wahoo KICKR CLIMB

Kickr_Climb.png

 

 

BKool

I am sorry to report that we don't support BKool smart trainers via Bluetooth connections.

BKool Smart Pro

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
No No Yes (FE-C)

BKool is supported and controlled on the ANT+ channel with the FE-C software.  You can use ERG mode or standard resistance. No control via Bluetooth. You may have to activate the BKool FE-C software using the BKool Training App.

BKOOL1.png

 

Max Wattage: 1200 Watts

BKool Smart Go

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
No No Yes (FE-C)

BKool is supported and controlled on the ANT+ channel with the FE-C software.  You can use ERG mode or standard resistance. No control via Bluetooth. You may have to activate the BKool FE-C software using the BKool Training App. 

BKOOL2.png

Max Wattage: 800 Watts

BKool Smart Pro 2

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
No No Yes (FE-C)

BKool is supported and controlled on the ANT+ channel with the FE-C software.  You can use ERG mode or standard resistance. No control via Bluetooth. You may have to activate the BKool FE-C software using the BKool Training App. 

bkool3.png

Max Wattage: 1200 watts

BKool Smart Air Pro

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
No No Yes (FE-C)

BKool is supported and controlled on the ANT+ channel with the FE-C software.  You can use ERG mode or standard resistance. No control via Bluetooth. You may have to activate the BKool FE-C software using the BKool Training App. 

bkool4.png

Max Wattage: 2000 watts

Saris (CYCLEOPS) 

Hammer Direct Drive Trainer (H1, H2, H3)

A name worthy of Sufferlandria!

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

 Saris_Hammer.png

 

Max wattage @20mph: 2000 watts.  (We want you on the Sufferlandrian National Team if you can actually hit that target!)

 Magnus or M2

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Saris_Magnus.png

Max Wattage 1500 watts. 

 

Elite

Elite trainers that have the FE-C software installed can be integrated with the Sufferfest App.  The main difference between the B+ and non B+ models is Bluetooth enabled.

Note: Level mode may not work on all trainers. If it doesn't work, contact Elite about updating your firmware. 

For more information on connecting Elite trainers, click here.

Direto

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Direto.jpg

Drivo

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Note: You will need to contact Elite for a firmware update in order to have level mode supported on the Drivo with Bluetooth control.

Drivo.png

 

Suito

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Suito_1_.jpg

Zumo

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

 

Zumo.png

*Kura

Conditionally Supported using ANT+. No bluetooth support yet. *The Kura does not have Smart Trainer control. We only read the power reading directly from the unit.  Sufferlandrians still have to shift to hit wattage targets using this trainer. 

Kura.png

Rampa

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Rampa.png

Real Turbo Muin B+

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

REal_Turbo_Muin_B.png

Max Wattage Diagram attached below.  We also call this the "Average Sufferlandrian Power curve".

Real_turbo_muin_B_power_curve.png

 

Qubo Digital B+

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

QuboB_.png

Real E-Motion B+

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Real_emotion_b_.png

Arion Smart Digital B+

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

 Arions_smart_digital_b_.png

 

 

Real Axiom B+

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

real_axiom_b_.png

Max Wattage Diagram attached below.

real_axiom_b__power_curve.png

Real Tour B+

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

real_tour_b_.png

Max Wattage diagram attached below.

real_tour_b__power_curve.png

 

JETBLACK SMART TRAINERS

JetBlack Whisper Smart Trainer

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Jetblack_whisper_smart.png

 

Kurt Kinetic Smart Control Trainers

KURT KINETIC R1

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes

Will report power but does not offer smart control. 

(No ERG)

Yes

kk_R1.png

 

T-7000, T-6500, T-6400, T-6300

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes

Power Only

No Smart Control

Yes

kk_t6400.png

 

 

T-6200, T-6100, T-6000

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes

Power Only

No Smart Control

No

kk_t6100.png

MINOURA SMART TRAINERS

Kagura LST9200

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Minoura_Kagura.png

 

TACX SMART TRAINERS

Any TACX trainer that has FE-C software installed is fully supported at this time. You can use Standard or ERG mode.

Article on Connecting TACX Trainers

TACX Neo (T2800)

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Tacx_Neo.png

 Max brake power (10 sec.) 2200 Watts

TACX Flux (T2900)

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Tacx_Flux.png

Max Brake Power 1500watts 10% max slope

TACX Genius Smart and i-Genius T2210 (w/ FE-C update)

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Tacx_Genius_smart.png

Max Brake power (10 sec.) 1500 Watts

TACX Ironman Smart (T2060)

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

 

Tacx_ironman_smart.png 

Max Brake Power (10 sec.) 1500 Watts

Max Sprint Power (1 min.) 1200 Watts

TACX Bushido Smart (T2780)

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

 Tacx_bushido_smart.png

 

Max Brake Power (10 sec.) 1400 Watts

Max Sprint Power (1 min.) 750 Watts

TACX Vortex Smart (T2180)

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Tacx_vortex_smart.png

Max Brake Power (10 sec.) 950 Watts

Max Sprint Power (1 min.) 750 Watts

TACX Flow Smart (T2240)

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

 

Tacx_Flow_smart.png 

Max Brake Power (10 sec.) 800 Watts

Max Sprint Power (1 min.) 700 Watts

*TACX Satori Smart (T2400)

Technically the Satori Smart is not a smart trainer but it will work with the Sufferfest Training System.  You change resistance and the trainer will report the correct virtual wattage.  We consider it a really "cool" option for trainers.  

Tacx_Satori_smart.png

 STACK ZERO HALCYON

iOS Bluetooth Desktop Bluetooth Desktop ANT+
Yes Yes Yes (FE-C)

Stac_Zero_Halcyon.png

 

OTHER TRAINERS

There is a multitude of trainers that have been on the market for many years.  We do support some of these trainers at different levels.  There are also some indoor cycles that we support like Stages and Wattbike that can be used with the Sufferfest App.  If your trainer is not listed here, please submit a help request here.

There are ways to use these older smart trainers with the Sufferfest App, but most of the solutions require you to be in Level mode and shifting gears to match wattage target goals.

Haven't made the switch to a smart trainer? No excuse for not suffering. You can view our list of compatible standard trainers here:  Compatible Trainers for Virtual Watts (Classic Trainers) 

Trainers That Do Not Have FE-C Installed And Are Not Supported

  • Cycleops PowerBeam
  • Cycleops PowerSync
  • Racermate/Computrainer  (all models)
  • TACX Satori Smart
  • TACX Bushido (non-smart)
  • TACX Vortex (non-smart)
  • TACX Genius (non-smart)
  • TACX i-Magic, i-Flow, i-Bushido, or i-Vortex are not supported.  You can contact TACX and see if they have a way to upgrade these trainers with the ANT+ FE-C protocol.  
  • TACX Flow
  • TACX Fortius
0 out of 0 found this helpful

Comments

0 comments

Article is closed for comments.