List of Sufferfest videos

Historically, there used to be a list of the cycling videos on a page at thesufferfest.com.  It appears that any such list has been eliminated.  Is there a list anywhere of the videos available?  I'm a previous user of the Sufferfest App, and just want to get an idea of the 'menu' of videos available - is there such a thing?

0

Comments

30 comments
  • Official comment

    Hi Everyone, thank you all so much for this feedback. Please know that I am passing this along to the rest of the SUF team so that they are kept aware of what our Sufferlandrians would like to see.

    Comment actions Permalink
  • Hi Brett,

     

    I am sorry to report that we don't have an all-inclusive list of our video library online at this point.  If you were a subscriber before though you should be able to log in and see all of the videos still.  They just won't play without an active subscription.

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Thanks for the response - that worked.  Although now, with the new Sufferfest version, there is no way to sort all of the videos alphabetically by name - they get filtered by category.  Anyway to get a new category added called 'Title' or something so that all of them can just be in a single list?

    Thanks again for the response!

    Brett

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Don't you worry!  We have that alphabetical back with our next update of the app!  ;)

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Couple of things here:

     

    1. I'm at work, on a work computer, so I can't run the app - why isn't there an online catalog available? I obviously don't want to watch the videos themselves, but just want to have a quick look to see what to do tonight.

     

    2. It'd be great if the Windows app remembered the last workout sort order - it gets dull having to always click on "By duration" Every Single Time. 

     

    3. And the Android app, when?

     

    Cheers.

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • I have to second number 1 above - having a way to see the list of videos online was a great way to show my co-workers and other friends the wide range of pain that they could suffer.  In fact, that's how one of my friends started subscribing to Sufferfest.  I really think The Sufferfest is missing out on customers because it's very difficult for those of us familiar with the program to be able to 'sell' someone on the idea of a workout video.

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Thanks, Brett!

    We are working on something that should take care of this issue.  We are redesigning app.thesufferfest.com and from there we hope that you will be able to view the workouts.  You won't be able to play them yet but you should be able to see the workout information there.

     

    Most importantly thank you for wanting to sell The Sufferfest to your friends and coworkers.  

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Hi Cody!

    Glad to hear you're adding that information to a website (that hopefully doesn't require logging in to share - I'm not sure if I send a link to a friend that they're going to go through the effort of creating account just to see what you're offering).

    The Sufferfest videos are a great training tool, so I'm glad to share my thoughts with my friends. 

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Yeah, as of right now it will require logging in to see.  I'll share this feedback with the team.

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • why is there not a list of the videos?  I am at work trying to plan out my torture sesh for the evening, and I can not get a list of the videos available.  I have my app on my laptop at home, sooooooooooooooo?

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Agree with above comments...

    A list on the normal website info, same as the app list, would be a good addition. It's not giving anything away to outsiders in just a list form? Indicating type of session, duration etc...? 

     

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Agree with others. I just want to see a list with a simplified graph and duration to gauge what's on the horizon.

    So simple. I doubt this will get done. The fact you can barely click on the scroll bar using the windows app one year in is still an issue not looked at.

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Same here - wanted to plan a workout. Spent ages looking through the website thinking there must be a list somewhere and that I was being too thick to find it. Finally found these comments. C'mon Sufferfest- what's hard about putting the current full list on the website???

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • It's crazy that there isn't a comparative list or table of videos so we can plan our workouts? I'm coming back to SF after a several years delay, and there used to be one. I'm currently on my trial period, but don't think I'll continue because of how clunky the interface is to determine which video does what. 

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • You can filter the videos by exactly what they target and other factors such as TSS, IF, duration, etc:

     

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Just  one of the many reasons I haven't gone back - the app itself is a great idea (I really like knowing a 'target power', but not having a list to be able to plan my workouts is just one of quite a few reasons I won't come back - there are too many issues with the current app.  And the developers/customer support don't seem to care about the issues.  They're happy just spinning out new content (and upping the subscription price).

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Yotam - I think we all know how to filter the videos.  However, when planning my workouts, I want to see the profiles (and not just the small picture beneath the video name).  Right now, the only way to get a look at the profiles in the way I (and I think others) want is to go into each video one at a time - this is not an efficient way to plan workouts.

    1
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Indeed. Sorting the videos is easy, but not repeatable. Every time I want to find a category of videos I have to start all over again. Then, there's no way to compare the workouts without going into the session, trying to remember what the workout was and then starting all over again. Its quite frustrating, and not worth the price of admission. 

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Aha! I think I have it figured out. If sorting and comparing workouts were easy, then I wouldn't need a paid customized training plan:

    https://thesufferfest.com/pages/customised-suf-training-plans 

    That can be the only explanation for why such a simple feature, which used to exist, is nowhere to be found. If the workouts are difficult to sort through, then paying extra for a training plan makes more sense. Otherwise, we have to fumble through filtering from scratch every time. 

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • I have since downloaded the App to my phone.  If you want to compare workouts to each other, I have found no good method other than sorting by TSS score.  I still think for the money Sufferfest is the best thing out there. (No they did not pay me for that).  

     

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • I agree that the filters could be improved, primarily by remaining consistent across tab switches.

    But Ok, let's say that there is a place for a comparison table.. what would you want it to include?

    We have already: Duration | Category | TSS | IF | Focus.

    What additional info would you need to plan your workouts in a more efficient way?

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • I can't speak for others, but from a planning standpoint, I want to see the profile of the workout with the line indicating where effort level 7.5 is at (i.e. the format that the profile pictures used to have - for instance https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0901/4514/files/profile-the-wretched.png?2290321246219073836).  This gives me an idea of how much I'm going to be 'pushing' during the workout, which I find invaluable when figuring out how to schedule the workouts.  It allows me to optimize my training, taking into account my fatigue level.

    In order to do this effectively, this either needs to be on the website (I'm willing to look there when planning), or optimally, when this option is selected, the main app pane shows a scrolling table of the profiles.

    1
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Ok, adding the FTP line to the profiles sounds like a solid feature request - certainly helpful!

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • That's a good start, but need to also be able to see the detail on the profile graphs - the little pictures associated with the workouts in the workout list are not detailed enough to be able to evaluate.

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Brett nailed it. A PDF with a simple comparative graphic showing the graphic profile of each session solves this problem. But then it makes paying $139++ to have a custom plan built irrelevant, which I have to assume is why that graphic is no longer part of the SF site.  

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • I'll politely disagree that these two things are conflicting.  The PDF (or other way of viewing the profiles) allows me to evaluate more effectively which video I want to take on each day, as well as try and plan for the various challenges I'm trying to overcome.  However, I do not think it takes the place of the custom built plans - I believe that having someone with more experience and knowledge develop a training plan to tackle a big goal given the specific current fitness level, timeline to the goal, and amount of energy/time that can be spent training would still be very valuable.

    All that being said, I still think having a "comparative graphic" is a rudimentary thing that is lacking in the Sufferfest offering.

    Thanks for posting Jon - it's been a year and a half since I originally asked the question, so I'm glad that others are starting to see some of the deficiencies in the Sufferfest offering.  I hope that this sort of feedback motivates the Sufferfest to make some changes (and fix the issues).

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • I don't exactly follow the custom plan rant, but if you Google [sufferfest menu filetype:pdf] then I'm guessing you'll be relatively happy.

    Happy to accept $139 or more, or less, to BTC 1GW6CXANYvYgWpNupQg9wirfoerPuq8i34 LOL

     

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Yotam: Not really. There are 2 results from the search, one has 16 videos. The other slightly more, but references videos that seem to be defunct. There is nothing that lists the multiple dozens of videos on offer from the app today. And, failing to provide such is a glaring error of the service. 

    As to my "rant" (are you a SF employee?), it's simple: It is far easier to plan a training week from a template (such as a PDF) than it is to have to hunt and find and review each individual workout in the app. So, by making this information hard to find, it then becomes easier to just pay the fee to SF to build a plan for me. It's a very subtle and widely used tactic. Training Peaks does it quite well - it is cumbersome and awkward to build a plan within TP, but very easy to pay a fee and have a plan dropped into your calendars. 

    If SF didn't have such terrific content I wouldn't care about this. The videos themselves, and the connectivity of the app with my power meter, TP, and Garmin is great. But, the lack of a summary document is a sloppy oversight. 

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Jon - well said.  And I didn't think you were 'ranting'. :-)  I agree that in general, the Sufferfest has a lot of potential - just wish they would get back to their roots of having a rock solid, robust offering.

    0
    Comment actions Permalink
  • Nope, not a SF employee.

    Not sure why you're seeing only 2 results, but there are pdfs out there with tens of sessions over many pages.

    But as you interpret the missing information as a "tactic" then it's certainly not a "sloppy oversight" or "glaring error" at the same time. Rather a scheme to get athletes who do not want to use a built-in training plan (which they've already paid for as part of the subscription) frustrated to the point of...paying extra?

    Maybe; but I'd agree more with "sloppy oversight" :) haha (who has time to update PDFs when everyone is screaming for an Android App and TrainingPeaks export?! lol)

    But I totally understand your point - I've trained myself for decades and putting plans together is hard. TodaysPlan had some nice tools for TSS rates but the workouts were excruciatingly dull. TrainingPeaks' ATP tool or plans aren't cheap, Xert is also problematic in the long-run, and no one wants to stare at blue graphs every day...So having a good data source that is easy to use is important.

    Personally, I'm always more than happy to pay for things that save me time, make decisions easier, and deliver results. Which, btw, is why I'm using SUF to begin with. And, no, I'm not on a customized plan. Just using the built-in plans and extremely happy with the results I'm seeing (multi Nationals Podiums, CAT A Zwifter).

    If the shelf plans were not suitable or delivering then I'd certainly consider a customized plan - but out of pure Couchlandiran tendencies - letting someone else do the heavy lifting of planning - instead of trying to figure it all out by myself (again), and certainly not because I think that they're hiding information to nudge me towards that endpoint. But then again, maybe that's the genius of it? ;)

    0
    Comment actions Permalink

Please sign in to leave a comment.

Didn't find what you were looking for?

New post